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An Act of State: The
Execution of Martin Luther King Jr.
Talk given
at Modern Times Bookstore by William F. Pepper
San Francisco, CA
4 February 2003
Thank you. And good
evening. This story actually begins with Vietnam in 1966. As a very much younger
person I was there as a journalist and didn't publish anything whilst I was
there, but waited until I got back to the United States. Then I wrote a number
of articles. One of them appeared in a muckraking magazine called Ramparts, that
had its home in this city, published by Warren Hinckle in those days. It was
called "The Children of Vietnam." That is what started me down the slippery
slope of the saga of Martin Luther King; his work during the last year, and his
death. And then an investigation which has gone on since 1978.
When Martin King saw
the Ramparts piece he was at a -- there are different stories of actually where
he was -- but I think he was at Atlanta Airport on his way to the West Indies
and he was traveling with Bernard Lee, his bodyguard. They were having a meal
and he was going through his mail, according to Bernard, and he came upon this
issue of Ramparts, January 1st, 1967. It had in it the piece that I wrote called
"The Children of Vietnam." Bernard said as he started to thumb through it he
stopped and was visibly moved. He pushed his food away. Bernard said, "What's
the matter Martin, aren't you hungry? Is there something wrong with the food?"
And he said, "No. I've lost my appetite. I may have lost the ability to
appreciate food altogether until we end this wretched
war."
Then he asked to
meet with me and asked me to open my files to him that went well beyond what was
published in the Ramparts piece in terms of photographs. Some of you probably
saw, if you're old enough to remember, a number of those photographs. Portions
of them used to appear on lampposts and windows of burned and deformed children.
That was what gave him pause. He hadn't had a chance to read the text at that
point but it was the photographs that stopped him.
The introduction of
the article was by Benjamin Spock. It resulted, ultimately, in a Committee of
Responsibility bringing over a hundred Vietnamese children, war-injured children
to this country and our placing them in hospitals around the nation. This was so
that people would have a chance to see first-hand what their tax dollars were
purchasing.
On the way to
Cambridge to open Vietnam Summer, an anti-war project, we rode from Brown
University (where he had delivered a sermon at the chapel there) and I continued
the process of showing him these photographs and anecdotes of what I had seen
when I was in the country. And he wept, he openly wept. He was so visibly shaken
by what was happening that it was difficult for him to retain composure. And of
course that passion came out in his speech on April 4th, 1967 at Riverside
Church [1] where he said that his native land had become the greatest purveyor
of violence on the face of the earth. Quoting Thoreau he said we have come to a
point where we use massively improved means to accomplish unimproved ends and
what we should be doing is focusing on not just the neighborhood that we have
created but making that old white neighborhood into a brotherhood. And we were
going entirely in the opposite direction and this was what he was pledging to
fight
against.
We spoke very early
in the morning following that Riverside address and he said, `Now you know
they're all going to turn against me. We're going to lose money. SCLC [Southern
Christian Leadership Conference] will lose all of its corporate contributions.
All the major civil rights leaders are going to turn their back on me and all
the major media will start to tarnish and to taint and to attack me. I will be
called everything even up to and including a traitor.' So he said, `We must
persevere and build a new coalition that can be effective in this course of
peace and justice.`
That coalition came
to be known as the National Conference for New Politics. It was an umbrella
organization and it held its first -- and last -- convention in Chicago over the
Labor Day weekend of 1967. It had 5,000 delegates, maybe the largest convention
of people ever assembled in the history of this country, at the Palmer House in
Chicago. They came from every walk of life, every socio-economic class, every
racial group, every ethnic group. The purpose was to form this umbrella
coalition that would effectively coordinate a massive third-party political
campaign against the Johnson Administration and Johnson's re-election; but at
the same time develop grassroots organizing capabilities in the communities
across
America.
It wasn't to be --
although it continued and struggled for the period of a year -- but it wasn't to
be because of government's wiliness and our naïveté. We never appreciated the
extent to which government would go to undermine and undercut that kind of
movement. They were responsible for the formation of a first black caucus. That
black caucus was largely led by agente provocateurs who came from the Blackstone
Rangers, organizations of that sort in Chicago. And they corraled each black
delegate who came in and brought them into a room and formed this unity of
all-black delegates and this commitment to vote as a block and introduce
resolutions as a
block.
We thought, many of
us, that this was a good thing because this was typical and representative of a
growing black awareness, particularly urban awareness. Although in the caucus
they of course brought in rural black leaders as well. We felt this was healthy
and there would be then this block that would vote and introduce the concerns of
the black community across America. We didn't know that it was
government-induced and government-sponsored and government-paid for and that the
leaders were gangsters. Blackstone Rangers would surface again and again in the
course of the movement as capable of disrupting and causing havoc on behalf of
their
employers.
Martin delivered the
keynote address at the convention. I introduced him and he delivered this
address and the importance of this movement. As he was speaking a note was
passed over my shoulder to me and I read it and it said, `Get him out of here
after he finishes his speech or we will take him hostage and humiliate him
before the world.' They were so afraid that if this man stayed on for the
substantive part of the convention that he, as a unifier, might bridge the
differences and might overcome the provocation that was designed to disrupt the
convention.
But I really felt at
that point I had no choice. It was the first tip-off of what was going on. But
still [I thought these were] just angry, hostile urban blacks, disaffected with
non-violence and who had a different way of looking at things and different
tactics that they wanted to follow. I didn't think at all that it was (of
course) officially inspired. So we did get Martin out of the Palmer House very
quickly after his speech and they went on with the convention.
It was all downhill
from there. They forced through resolutions that simply were so antagonistic to
sections of the movement and engendered such hostility that all the money dried
up for that noble cause. They were
successful.
That being the case,
nevertheless we struggled and worked in that last year of his life. I remember
the last time I saw him alive (I think it was in late February). He had already
started to become involved in the sanitation workers strike. In his own mind he
thought that this was the basis for the encampment of the poor people in
Washington and this was a good launching pad. He sympathized with all the goals
of the sanitation workers in Memphis.
We met at John
Bennett's study at Union Theological Chamber in New York. There was just four of
us: Martin, myself, Benjamin Spock and Andrew Young. Most of the dialogue
actually came between Martin and myself in terms of my probing him about ways of
briding the gap between his commitment to peace and non-violence and that
approach of Malcom[ X]'s which was confrontational and violent in
self-defense.
We went away, with
no resolution to the issue. And of course, the rest is history. He was
assassinated on the fourth of April 1968, one year to the day (it's interesting)
from the time he delivered the Riverside
speech.
We went to the
memorials, Spock and I, and the funeral and then I walked away from political
activity. I had had my fill of
it.
Ben and Julian Bond
and others went up to see Bobby Kennedy who had asked, invited us all to come. I
didn't know him in '68. I knew him as a much younger person when I handled the
campaign of his as a citizen's chairmen in Westchester County in New York when
he ran for the Senate. And I didn't like him at all. I thought he was
opportunistic and all those things that you have heard about Bobby Kennedy I
thought were true. I saw them, confronted them, directly.
But the Bob Kennedy
who was killed in '68, I think was a very different person. I regard it as one
of my sadnesses that I did not see him at the end. Because he had made an
overture to Martin to run as a Vice-Presidential candidate with him. It was not
generally known. But when he made his announcement, March I guess it was 15th or
16th, he made contact with Martin and I'm sure that contact was
known.
Eight, nine years
later [Ralph] Abernathy called me and asked me to go up to the prison with him.
Actually [it was] ten [years], it was in late '77, he asked me to go to the
prison with him and interrogate James Earl Ray. I said, `This is a funny request
Ralph. Ten years after the fact. Why would you want to do that? Do you have some
questions about it? Isn't Ray guilty?' I didn't know anything about the case. I
didn't want to know about it at that
point.
He said, `I just
have some questions. Will you come along with me?' I still don't fully
understand why he did that. He said, `But I want you to interrogate him and I
want to watch him when you do that.' So I said, `Well, it's going to take me
some while to get up to speed on this case. Because I don't know anything about
it.'
It did take some
time. In August of '78, finally, we went and we went through this session of
five hours intensive interrogation of James Earl Ray. His lawyer at the time,
Mark Lane, was there. A body language specialist from Harvard, [Dr.] Howie
Berens came and he sat in a corner, just watched James' movements as I put him
really through a rather rigorous, painful
time.
He was very
different than we expected to find. He was shy, docile, soft-spoken, thoughtful
and not at all the kind of racist figure that had been depicted in the media.
Not at all. He knew very little about weapons, very clearly had virtually no
skill at all with them. He was a petty thief and burglar, hold-up man. But he
was totally incompetent in
that.
He was known for
showing up too late in supermarkets he wanted to stick up, the time-lock would
already have been fixed on the safe [laughs]. The staff would say, `Look,
there's nothing we can do about this.' [laughing throughout remainder of
paragraph] And they said, `We'll give you our money.' He said, `I don't want
your money. I don't want to rob working people. I want the money from this
corporation.' That type of
thing.
He kept five
bullets, typically, in his pistol. When he was arrested at Heathrow Airport he
had five bullets in his pistol. He always kept the firing pin chamber empty.
When I pressed him on that, a long time, he wouldn't answer that question.
Finally he admitted, with some embarrassment, that he kept the firing pin
chamber empty because he shot himself in the foot once [laughs]. And he just
didn't want to do that
again.
He was incompetent
when it came to rifles. He had a virtually non-existent marksmanship score when
he took his test in the Army. He didn't know much about guns. When he was
instructed to buy a weapon that became the throw-down gun in the assassination
he bought a .243 Winchester rather than a thirty-ott-six [.3006] that he was
told to get. He didn't know the difference between them. When he showed the
weapon he had bought to Raul, who was controlling him, he sent him back to
exchange it. It was a matter of record. He went back and exchanged this one
rifle for another the next day. That's not something he thought of himself. It
just was the wrong gun. The guy wanted a .3006 caliber rifle so they had a .3006
rifle as the throw-down gun. So he had to go back and exchange it.
After the interview
we became convinced, Abernathy and I became convinced that he was not the
shooter. We didn't know what other role he might have played. But it was clear
he was not the assassin of Martin Luther King. This guy couldn't have done that.
But he raised so many questions that I had never heard raised before, that had
never been answered, that I decided I would begin to go into Memphis and talk to
some people, become familiar with the terrain and the crime scene and see if I
could get some answers to those
questions.
And I did. The more
I began to probe around the more concerned I got about new questions that were
unanswered. I had hoped that the Select Committee on Assassinations would solve
that problem. Because they were in session at the time and I hoped they would
solve it.
Their report came
out in 1979 [2] and they didn't solve it. All they did was to continue the
official history of the state's case which was that James Earl Ray was the lone
assassin and that he was guilty. I kept going back-and-forth visiting him and
asking him questions and then going off-and-on into Memphis and then
occasionally into New
Orleans.
Slowly things
started to come together to the point where ten years on in this process I
became convinced that not only was Ray not the shooter but that he was an
unknowing
patsy.
It was at that point
in 1988 that I agreed to represent him. So I became his lawyer and was his
lawyer for the last ten years of his life, trying very hard to get him a trial.
He never had a trial. It's amazing -- of course most people in the United States
if not the world never understood that James Earl Ray never had a trial; that he
was coerced into copping a guilty plea by Percy Foreman who was his second
lawyer.
People would say,
`Well why would he plead guilty? Goodness me.' When you put that question to
James his answer was always the same: "Look, he told me all kinds of things. I
always wanted this trial. Right down to the end I was trying to get this trial.
But Percy said to me, `You know, your Dad's a parole violator. He's going to be
sent back to jail fifty years after violating that parole. They'll make sure
he's locked up. Your whole family will be harassed forever. They convicted you
anyway because the media has got you wiped out as the killer. You haven't got a
chance. They're going to fry you Jimmy.'"
But the thing that
really convinced him to get rid of Foreman by pleading, was Percy's statement
that "I'm not in good health, James. I cannot give you the best defense because
I'm not in good health." And he said to me, "That was it. When my lawyer said to
me `I'm not in good health and I can't give you the best defense,' that really
started to worry me. Foreman said `What you should do is plead guilty, then make
a motion for a new trial, get a new lawyer and you overturn the guilty plea and
then you're off and away.'" James said, `But I don't have any money for a new
lawyer.' So Foreman said, `Don't worry about that James. I'll give your brother
Jerry $500 and he can go hire you a new lawyer. But you have got to make an
agreement that you will not cause any problems at the guilty plea hearing.
You'll just take that guilty
plea.'
Percy not only said
that. He put it in writing. We got a copy of Percy's letter to James where he
said, `Dear James, I'm going to give this $500 to your brother on the condition
that you plead guilty and you do not cause any undue disturbances at this guilty
plea hearing.' He actually put that in writing. A remarkable admission.
So James certainly,
he plead. He did cause a little problem at the guilty plea hearing, but
nevertheless he plead. And Jerry got the $500 and James didn't wait for a lawyer
to be retained but he filed himself pro se (by himself) a petition for a new
trial. He plead on March 10th, that was when he was guilty and convicted and
sentenced to 99 years. And on March 13th, three days later, he filed. From March
13th until the day that he died, James Earl Ray was trying to get a trial.
On March 31st the
Judge, who had sentenced him and who had overseen the guilty plea hearings was
reviewing the petition for a new trial, had told some people that he was
concerned about certain aspects of the case (whether that is serious or not one
doesn't know) and he was found in his office dead of a heart attack, with his
head on James' motion papers. You can speculate what that means. It may mean
nothing. It just may mean that man was under a lot of stress for a lot of
different reasons, he had a heart attack and he happened to be reviewing those
papers and when he collapsed and the head down it was on James' papers.
But there is a law
in Tennessee that says if a judge dies and you make a motion for a new trial and
in the course of that motion before ruling on it the judge dies, you get a new
trial automatically. There were two people who had filed those motions before
[Judge] Preston Battle. One was James Earl Ray and the other person was the one
who got the trial. James didn't, of course. So he went on, all of those years,
trying to get that trial and was unsuccessful.
Meanwhile the
state's case was articulated in a number of books, by Gerold Frank, a chap
called [George] McMillan, eventually commentaries by David Garrow and ultimately
a fellow called Gerald Posner. Always the same line, always the same story,
unyieldingly: lone assassin, no conspiracy, no deviation at all. That's been the
case from beginning to
end.
I tried to get James
a trial for many years. But in the initial stages we lost all the way up through
the Supreme Court. We were denied. I guess we finished that process around 1990,
. . . '89, '90, '91 it was certainly
completed.
In 1992 I got the
idea: Why don't we try to do this trial on television? So HBO in this country
and Thames Television in the U.K. sponsored a television trial called "The Trial
of James Earl Ray." The trial was prepared in 1992 and it began and was tried in
1993, the 25th anniversary of the assassination of Martin King.
The Judge was a
former federal Judge, Marvin Frankel out of New York, a very tough judge. We
fought all the time, particularly in chambers. Eventually we became friends. But
it was very hostile during the trial.
The Prosecutor was
Hickman Ewing Jr., a former U.S. attorney who had won 200 straight prosecution
cases as a U.S. attorney. Some of you may know him and know the name. He was Ken
Starr's Number 2 in the Whitewater investigations for a number of months if not
years.
The jury came from
all over the country and very strictly adhered to were the rules, Criminal
Procedure of the State of Tennessee. It was a serious trial. Even though it had
no script or anything. The witnesses were not scripted in any
way.
It took the jury
about seven hours after that television trial to come back with a verdict of Not
Guilty, James Earl Ray. You probably never heard of that. Because it was not
reported anywhere and if it was it was mentioned once or twice in a couple of
media entities. It was called "entertainment." It wasn't really serious you see.
It was a form of
entertainment.
But what it did do
was to bring to the fore, witnesses and information that had not been possible
to get before that. So in that way it was very helpful. And in one instance, we
had four witnesses whose testimony would have caused the indictment of a man
called Lyod Jowers who owned Jim's Grill which was a café on the ground floor of
the rooming house from which the shot supposedly was fired from the bathroom
window. Behind Jim's Grill there's a big vacant lot, bushy area, heavily
overgrown at the time and it backed onto the Lorraine Motel where Martin King
stayed.
These people gave me
enough evidence as a result of the trial and my discovering them and the
investigation (we had over 22 investigators working for me in the course of that
preparation) to indict Jowers. Jowers knew about it. I'd known Loyd Jowers since
1978. He's one of the first people I'd talked to. I'd known this guy for 14
years already and he (of course) never admitted anything and he lied about
everything. But as these witnesses now started to assemble, it was powerful
testimony against
him.
One of them was his
former -- and she was still active as his girl friend and lover at the time --
she became former by 1992, but back in '68 she and Loyd had a thing going. Her
story was that she came into the Grill on the afternoon of April 4th. She didn't
see Loyd around anywhere. He was the manager and the short order cook and he
helped do everything. And she saw the kitchen door closed which was unusual so
she opened the kitchen door thinking that `Well maybe he's out in the back
fooling around with some of those local ladies.' Because she never trusted him
really.
As she got into the
kitchen she saw the kitchen door was open leading to the outside. As she
approached that open kitchen door she heard a gunshot. She was startled but she
still went on. As she got into the doorway, here comes Loyd running through the
bushes carrying a still-smoking rifle. He brushes past her quickly, comes
inside, bends down to take the shell out and break it down and says to her
plaintively, `Betty, you wouldn't do anything to hurt me would you?' And she
said, `No Loyd of course not. Of course I wouldn't.' So he throws the shell down
the commode, the toilet back of the kitchen and stuffed it up in doing it. Then
he covered the rifle with cloth and brought it down and put it under a
shelf.
Betty [Jean Spates]
had known about this (of course) since 1968. It was only in 1992, I think
December of 1992 where she finally agreed to tell me this story. I'd known her
for a lot of years. Loyd tried to keep me from even finding out where she lived
but she told me this story
then.
There were three
others with similar incriminating pieces of information -- a taxi driver who saw
the murder weapon, whom Loyd asked to get rid of the murder weapon, or hold onto
it -- a whole series of different witnesses. So Loyd was in trouble and he knew
it. He said to his lawyer, `You go and get me immunity from prosecution and I'll
tell everything I know about this
killing.'
So his lawyer, Lewis
Garrison goes off to meet with the District Attorney General and tries to get
immunity for Loyd. He said, `Loyd will tell you everything. This is the case of
the century. You can be the most famous prosecutor in America. You can break
this case.' Not only does Loyd not get immunity from prosecution. But the
District Attorney General never interviewed him. Never even spoke to
him.
Nobody wanted to
prosecute Loyd. But he still was worried because I sat a colleague of mine
outside of the Grand Jury room for two weeks trying to get the foreman of the
Grand Jury to let him in (he was a lawyer) to give evidence and provide the
foundation for the giving of evidence of these witnesses so that the Grand Jury
independently of the Prosecutor (if we could get them to run away) would issue
an
indictment.
He never got in. But
Loyd didn't know that. So Loyd conjures up with his lawyer and some others the
idea that he'll try to get this story out publically. They contact Sam
Donaldson. (I don't know if you know who he is.) He was an ABC journalist who
ran a program called Prime Time Live. Donaldson agreed to put Jowers on and let
him tell this story. So Jowers goes on television and tells his story on Prime
Time Live and it seems like it's a big news
story.
I actually got it
covered in The Observer in England. I had been living all this time (by the way)
in England. Not in the United States. I had moved to England in 1980-81. I had
moved my family there and I was a visiting scholar at Cambridge at the time. And
that was a much nicer place to raise children considering some of the things I
was getting myself in to. But I had to come back and forth continually to
commute on this, to do this
work.
The next morning,
after the Prime Time Live program, there is no coverage at all of this. Not even
ABC News treated their own program as a news-worthy event. There was no coverage
at all and no mention in the press. It just goes
by-the-by.
So the investigation
continues. In March, about March 20th or 21st, after the trial was over, a
journalist named Steve Tompkins wrote an article in the Memphis Commercial
Appeal. It was to have been the first of eight installments. It became the only
piece, but it was a very lengthy piece. It dealt with the infiltration of the
civil rights movement and black leaders throughout America by military
intelligence going back to the second decade of the 20th century.
He traced the
history of military intelligence's concern and surveillance of black community
leaders and brought it all the way down (of course) to the COINTELPRO operations
[3] in the '50s and '60s, particularly against Martin King.
[4]
But the article
showed that what happened in the '50s and '60s was just a continuation of what
had been going on since around the time of the Russian Revolution. Because
blacks were regarded as prime candidates for recruitment to the Communist Party
after the Russian Revolution. So they had to be watched and
surveilled.
Hoover's Number 2 of
course, [Clyde] Tolson was an officer of military intelligence and Hoover
himself was given a rank of Colonel which he only discarded after the Second
World
War.
In this article
there was one little paragraph that caught my eye. It said, in Memphis on the
day of the assassination of Martin King there was an [Special Forces] Alpha 184
Team there. And nobody understood why that team was there. Alpha 184 six-man
unit was a sniper team. No one understood why they were there.
I was curious about
that and I went to see Steve and I said, `This is a whole other dimension to the
case.' I was beginning to form the opinion pretty clearly that Martin King had
been killed as the result of a Mafia contract. There were any number of bounties
on him in those periods of time and a fair amount of money had been raised to
try to get him killed. None of the occurrences were successful and I figured
ultimately one was and this was a Mafia hit. And that was it.
But now, all of a
sudden, into this picture comes one of the most secretive aspects of the
government of the United States: the role of the Army and the Army and military
intelligence on American soil. That bounded and intrigued me so I said to Steve,
`Will you arrange for these guys' -- whom he knew, he knew two members of this
sniper team -- `will you ask them if they'll answer questions for me?' It took
awhile and he said No, he wouldn't. He refused for the longest time. He didn't
want anything to do with these people again because he said they were nasty,
they'd kill you where you stand, they'd kill your family, your kids, anyone
else. These are just trained killers and that was the way it was. He didn't want
anything more to do with
them.
So I kept going back
and again [saying] `Look, we got this guy in jail and we believe he is innocent.
Any information I can get I need to have.' Finally he said he would help. They
would not however meet with me. They would trust him because he had never
betrayed them. He was a former Naval Intelligence officer himself. So he agreed
to take questions from me and they agreed to take those questions and answer
them. For a long, extended period of time I would give Steve questions. He would
go and he would come back with answers. He'd go again, come back. This was all
in his spare time and only his expenses were paid.
As he got the
answers to the questions -- he knew nothing really about the details of the
assassination -- he didn't even know why I was asking certain things. But as he
got those answers back to me -- these people were in Mexico by the way; they
fled the United States in the '70s because they thought there was a clean-up
operation underway so he had to make the trip to Mexico -- the picture started
to become clearer and clearer to me as I got the answers to these questions.
It became evident
that the military did not kill Martin King but that they were there in Memphis
as what I've come to believe was a backup operation. Because King was never
going to be allowed to leave Memphis. If the contract that was given didn't work
these guys were going to do it. The story they told was that the six of them
were briefed at 4:30 in the morning at Camp Shelby. The started out around 5
o'clock. They came to Memphis. They were briefed there. They took up their
positions.
At the briefing at
4:30 they were shown two photographs who were their targets. One was Martin King
and the other was Andrew Young. That was the first time I'd heard that Andrew
Young might even conceivably be a target. But that's what he was. The main
informant who told us most of the information in fact was the sniper who had
Young in his
crosshairs.
Now as far as they
knew they were going to kill these people. They had no regrets about it at all
because they considered them as traitors and they used very unkind words about
them. So they were going to kill them and they were prepared to do that. But
they never got the order. Instead they heard a shot. And each thought the other
one had fired too quickly. Then they had an order to disengage. It was only
later that they learned that, as they call it, `some wacko civilian' had
actually shot King and that their services were not required. But that's how
they
worked.
This was not a
one-off for these guys. They were trained snipers. You remember a hundred cities
burned in America in 1967. These guys were sent around the country, teams of
them, into different cities. These particular fellows had been in Detroit,
Newark and Tampa and possibly L.A. They were given mugbooks. Those mugbooks were
the photographs of community leaders and people who were to be their targets.
And they would be put in positions and they would take out community leaders who
would somehow be killed in the course of the rioting that was going on in
various
cities.
The assassination of
Martin King was a part of what amounted to an on-going covert program in which
they tried to suppress dissent and disruption in America.
He was shot from the
bushes behind Jim's Grill, not from the bathroom window. And he was shot as a
result of a conspiracy that brought a man called Frank Liberto -- who was a
[Carlos] Marcello operative in Memphis, he ran a wholesale food place -- in to
see Loyd Jowers whom he knew. Jowers owed him a very big favor. And in addition
to that he paid Jowers $100,000 and that was to take complete use of that Grill
facility for planning and staging of the assassination and the room upstairs
that Raul (who was controlling James Earl Ray) would have James rent and then
keep out of most of the
afternoon.
The final stages of
the assassination logistically were planned in Jim's Grill itself and there were
a number of Memphis Police Department officers -- some of them were senior
officers -- who were there. One of them was a black officer called Marrell
McCollough.
Marrell McCollough
is still alive and well today in Memphis, Tennessee. He went from the Memphis
Police Department to the Central Intelligence Agency where he worked for a
number of years [in the 1970s]. Before he became an undercover Memphis Police
Officer, he was brought back to active duty by the [Army] 111th Military
Intelligence Group [MIG] on June 16
1967.
So he was seconded
from military intelligence to become a policeman to go undercover with a black
group called the Invaders, a local group. So McCollough was very much in the
frame, in terms of all of these that were happening. He participated in the
planning. And Jowers named the other people who were involved in the planning as
well.
Each of these groups
of people only knew what they had to know about this overall assassination
scenario. There were two photographers on the roof of the Fire Station and they
filmed everything. They were still cameramen and they filmed the balcony, the
shot hitting Martin King, the parking lot, up into the bushes and they got the
sniper just lowering his
rifle.
So the whole
assassination of Martin King is on film. We negotiated for a year-and-a-half
with those guys -- who were psychological operations Army officers -- to try to
get it. They didn't know there was going to be an assassination. They were there
to take photographs of everybody and everything around the Lorraine Motel at
that point in time. The guy just happened, when he heard the shot, to spin his
camera up into the bushes. That's why they got the photographs that they
did.
We came close to
getting an agreement with them. Then my contact made a mistake and used his own
name on a flight into Miami. The FBI field office sent a team to track him. When
he was meeting with them in an open park area one of the FBI guys put a big long
lens camera out the passenger side of the car and the Army officer saw it and
spooked him. He thought we were trying to set him up and he split. That broke
down the
negotiations.
But they didn't know
what was going on. The guy who shot King was a police officer and he would only
be told what he needed to know. The Alpha 184 team knew nothing about the Mafia
operation that preceded them. The Memphis Police Department knew of the Mafia
contract and they covered that up. The FBI's role was to take control of the
total investigation and to cover it
up.
There isn't enough
time to go into the details of the evidence. I'll be happy to answer any
questions that you have. I try to cover all of the evidence that we have -- and
that we eventually put before the court -- in the
book.
Needless to say all
of this started to flesh out in 1993 and '94. I did a work-in-progress up to
that time called Orders To Kill. That book was never reviewed in America. This
book will never be reviewed in America. Most masses of people here will never
know anything about this story because the book will receive no attention
whatsoever.
I have friends in a
lot of media organizations, sometimes fairly senior journalists and reporters
and they say, `Bill it's just not worth our jobs. Don't expect us to have you on
in terms of this book. It's not worth our
jobs.'
The consolidation of
the control of the media is a major problem in this democracy as it is in most
democracies today. I don't know how democracy can function when people are not
allowed information that's essential for the decision-making process. But rather
they get propaganda
continually.
Orders To Kill came
out. It was unnoticed except by the King family whom I kept in touch with over
time and they knew about the work. At one point it became evident that James
Earl Ray was dying and he needed a trial, desperately or he would be dead and
there would be no possibility. He was dying of hepatitis, a liver
disease.
We put extra
pressure to try to get this trial based upon a lot of the evidence we had. We
had a sympathetic judge, Judge Joe Brown. Joe was very much inclined to give us
a trial. Then at the midnight hour, I think just within the week before I think
he would have ruled in our favor, he was removed from the case. The state made a
motion that he was prejudicial, he was behaving improperly as a judge, and he
was removed. There went the possibility of that trial.
The family came very
strongly in support of a trial for James and the family suffered as a result of
that. They lost millions of dollars of contributions to The King Center and they
knew it would happen. I didn't have to tell them but I did. I said, `Remember
what happened to Martin when he opposed the war. You know what is going to
happen to you. Once you take this one on, and you align yourself now with the
accused assassin of your loved one, you know what's going to happen to you. You
know you're going to be called fools. They're going to start finding reasons to
attack you. You're going to lose corporate contributions.' And all of that
happened. But they struggled
on.
We had an
arrangement for James to get a liver transplant at University of Pittsburgh
Hospital. Dr. John Fung agreed to do that, put him on the list and he had the
criteria to move forward. I made a motion to the court for that permission to
have him taken to Pittsburgh for that operation. We had him evaluated in
Tennessee. And we were denied, the motion was denied. Even though it wasn't
going to cost the state anything it was
denied.
He died in 1998. I
always wondered if there was anything more that I could have done and was I not
attentive enough. Any lawyer would go through that when you have a person who
has spent most of his life in prison and you know he's innocent. You want to get
him out. I'm not a criminal lawyer by trade. It's not what I do. But
nevertheless I wasn't hardened to it, I guess you could say, and I took it
pretty badly that this guy eventually died without a
trial.
The family and I met
and made a decision. Or rather, Mrs. King made the decision. I just laid out
what options were left in terms of getting the truth out. And the one option
that was left was a civil suit, a civil action. It was a wrongful death civil
action that I proposed against Loyd Jowers and other known and unknown
conspirators.
There were members
of the family that wondered if it was worthwhile. `We'd been hit and beaten down
so much,' they said, `is this really worth it? Why are we doing this? We're just
going to get hit more. Nobody is even going to hear about this.' This debate
went around for a long
time.
Finally Mrs. King
stopped the debate and she said, `I always have to think about two things when
we have these difficult decisions to make. One is, what would Martin have done
in these circumstances? And two, what would he want us, his heirs, to do in
these circumstances?' Then she looked at me and she said, `Bill, we're going to
trial.'
So we filed that
lawsuit in 1998 against Mr. Jowers in the Circuit Court in Tennessee and we
waited a year until we were sure we were going to get the judge we wanted to get
who was a black judge named [James] Swearingen. He had a reputation of being an
independent guy. He'd been on the bench for a long time. He'd been involved in
the movement in his youth. He was also going to retire. He didn't have much
longer to go. As it turned out this was his last
case.
So we got this case
before Judge Swearingen, who was not in good health. We tried the case in 1999
for 30 days: 70 witnesses, 4,000 pages of transcript that today is up on the
website of the King Center -- thekingcenter.com has all of the testimony of
this. [5] And for the first time under oath in any assassination's case in the
history of this country, or perhaps any other, there is the complete picture of
how Martin Luther King was killed. There is every answer to every question.
There is why the bushes were cut down the next morning. Who cut them down. Who
asked to have them cut down. There is every piece of information there. For
history more than anything
else.
It took this jury 59
minutes to come back with an award and with a verdict on behalf of the family
against Jowers and known and unknown conspirators in the government of the
United States, the state of Tennessee, and the city of
Memphis.
The family felt and
feels vindicated. They feel comfortable that they know now how it happened and
why it happened. The reasons were all laid out.
Martin King was
killed because he had become intolerable. It's not just that he opposed the war
and now was going to the bottom line of a number of the major corporations in
the United States; those forces that effectively rule the world at this point in
time, the transnational entities. But more importantly, I think the reason was
because he was going to bring a mass of people to Washington in the spring of
'68. And that was very troubling. He wanted to cap the numbers. But the military
knew that once he started bringing the wretched of America to camp there in the
shadow of the Washington Memorial, and go every day up to see their Senators and
Congressman and try to get social program monies put back in that were taken out
because of the war -- and once they did that, and they got rebuffed again and
again they would increasingly get
angry.
It was the
assessment of the Army that he would lose control of that group. And the more
violent and radical amongst the forces would take control and they would have a
revolution on their hands in the nation's capital. And they couldn't put down
that revolution. They didn't have enough troops. Westmoreland wanted 200,000 for
Vietnam. They didn't have those. They simply didn't have enough troops to put
down what they thought was going to be the revolution that would result from
that encampment.
[6]
So because of that I
think, more than anything else, Martin King was never going to be allowed to
bring that mass of angry, disaffected humanity to Washington. He was never going
to leave Memphis. And that was the reason for the elaborate preparations that
they
had.
That trial (of
course) was not covered, with very few exceptions. You probably never even heard
of the trial. General Counsel of Court TV is a friend of mine. He said, `Bill
we're going to cover this live because this is the most important trial in terms
of the history of democracy in this country; these issues that are being raised
of any I can think of.' Court TV's camera stayed in the hallway with the rest of
them except when Mrs. King testified or Andrew Young or Dexter [King] or
somebody. They never came in and they certainly didn't cover it live. All the
other media people came and stayed in the hallway and came in at selected points
and came and went. None of this was ever
reported.
There was one ABC
local anchorman [Wendell Stacey] who came in, very cynical in his outlook, and
he started to film for his local station. As he started to listen to the
evidence he was fascinated and intrigued. He decided he was going to stay and he
was going to film this thing. He was told by his producer, `Don't do that. Get
yourself out of there.' He ignored that, under threat of being fired and
eventually he was fired. But he tried -- and he did film it -- and finally got
his job back, ultimately through wrongful dismissal. But it was a chastening
event for him to sit there and to listen to this evidence and to realize that he
was being told to suppress it. To his credit he tried to hang
on.
But there was a
narrow window of about 12 hours where there was some minor reporting. And then
it just all went away and has never been heard of again. [A member of the
audience interjects: "Page 15 of the Washington Post, five paragraphs."] Yeah.
The New York Times did a bit of it too. But then it just disappeared and it was
never again reported or commented
upon.
Except wherever it
was raised, critics would start attacking. None of them had ever been there
[laughs] at the trial. They started attacking the Judge. They attacked the
defense counsel. They attacked the jury. They attacked the King family. There
were various shots of that sort to try to say that this trial was a farce, it
didn't make any sense, and made no difference
anyway.
The family decided
that was basically it for them. They had the answers. The answers were on the
record. But at least they would take it one step further and see if on the basis
of all of that evidence now, there could be an independent evaluation. So they
asked for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. They visited with President
Clinton and asked for that. He refused that request. Instead he turned it over
to Janet Reno and she appointed her Civil Rights division to put together a task
force to do the investigation. They did and they came away with a whitewash
which was predictable and which was the reason why we had wanted an independent
commission to look at this that had subpoena power and the power to grant
immunity from prosecution to get at the truth. But nobody was going to go that
route.
I deal in detail in
the book, almost line-by-line, with the report of the Department of Justice in
terms of the investigation and deal also with the state's case as it has been
articulated by various writers over the years. Because I think it is important
that people have a look at what the state has said and what the facts are about
that and also what the Attorney General's report said. To see that in the
context of the evidence that came out at the
trial.
That I suppose
really is the end of the story at this point in time. This work is probably the
last that can be done in terms of bringing everything out. Although, twenty-five
years later people still come forward. And there are a couple of loose ends that
just have to be tied up (and I'll probably try to do that for the paperback
version). But I don't think we really have much hope of going anywhere legally
with it. James is dead. The family has won a civil action against one of the few
people who could be sued. There are still some others. But I don't think we can
go very much further with the
case.
It is important for
Americans to look at this case history in terms of the health of democracy.
Particularly during these times which are more troubling than ever before. One
chapter of the book deals with Martin King. That's why it's a little different
kind of assassination book because I think in many ways that's the most
important chapter. Yes it's important to have the details and the evidence of
how this whole thing took place and how he was taken from
us.
But what's more
important is to understand how such a leader comes forward. What his roots are.
What makes him so special in terms of all of the co-opting pressures that are on
people who emerge in leadership capacities? Why has there been no one to replace
him ever since? And why is there a strange inaction in terms of the involvement
of people in leadership and organizations with respect to the major problems of
the economic situations of vast numbers of Americans in terms of the unequal
distribution of wealth in America and the quality of life of at least 30 million
Americans and their
children?
These movement
issues are as much with us today as ever before and yet there is silence. What
was there about King and his roots? I trace Martin King back to John Ruskin. Not
to Gandhi but to Ruskin. John Ruskin is the true father political economist in
Victorian times in England, the true father of Martin King's political and
economic philosophy and commitment to the poor of this world. He is depicted on
King Day as a civil rights leader. And that's the way you're going to see him
probably
forever.
But he was much more
than a civil rights leader and that's what no one in official capacity wants you
to know. He had moved well beyond the civil rights movement by 1964-65 and he
had become effectively a world-figure in terms of human rights people and
particularly the poor of this earth. That's where he was going. That's the area
you don't really get into safely when you start talking about wealth,
redistributing wealth. Taking, diverting huge sums of money into social welfare
programs and health programs and educational programs at the grass
roots.
When you start going
into that you begin to tread on toes in this country, in the United Kingdom, and
in most of the western world. When you start associating with the poor of this
planet and the exploitation of what's happened to whole cultures and tribal
cultures in Africa in particular, and you see the results of the exploitation of
western colonial powers and when you want to see a movement to not only arrest
that process which still goes forward today under different guises but to
actually reverse it and to give an opportunity for people to control their
destinies and their own natural wealth, that's dangerous ground to get on. So
you have to deal with that another
way.
King was committed,
increasingly, to that kind of political view which you will not hear about in
terms of the `I have a dream' speech which is typically what he is associated
with. He wept in India as early as '60, '61 when he was there. He had never seen
such poverty in such a massive scale. `How can people live like this?'
I sympathize with
that because when I was a 12-year-old I couldn't get my middle-class kids in my
neighborhood to play baseball with me in the summer heat. So the only way I
could do it was to go across to the ghetto which was quite a distance from where
I lived, with a little brown bag, and played ball with black kids all day. I did
that all summer long just because I loved the game. But it taught me a valuable
lesson of how people were forced to live. Because I would be a guest in their
homes and I'd see the rats running across the floor, Herbie Fields throwing his
shoe at the rats. Things like
that.
There's a lot of
people live that like this. Why do people live like this? Most of America
doesn't see that. We are residentially segregated society forever. King saw
that, wanted to bridge it and the solutions were too radical, too potentially
dangerous. Jefferson was an idol of his. With all of Jefferson's foibles,
remember he said, `You need a revolution every 20 years. You need to sweep the
room clean every 20 years,' said Mr. Jefferson. You need that revolution. King
believed that as
well.
How wise was
Jefferson? Jack Kennedy once said, when he had a dinner for all the living nobel
prize winners of the United States and they were all gathered around the table,
he lifted a toast and said `I'm going to toast you this evening because never
before has so much brilliance, so much wisdom, eaten in this room, except when
Mr. Jefferson dined alone.' That's the impact of that perception, that political
perception that Kennedy appreciated so much.
That's the
background and the overview, I suppose, the summary of the case as it is
contained in the book and of my history of involvement with it. In many ways I
had put it behind me when this book was finished and now I've had to come around
and it's a pleasure to come and see folks like you and talk to you. But there's
a whole part of me that's now in a whole other
world.
I convene a seminar
on International Human Rights at Oxford with the motto of our seminars being Non
nobis solum nati sumas, which means We exist not for ourselves alone. That's in
honor of Martin Luther King, whose son, Martin the 3rd opened the series last
year. So I've gone away from this and I spend a lot of time in Caracas with Hugo
Chavez who was at Oxford as a guest of my seminar [7] and whose Bolivarian
revolution I've come to believe in very much as a continuation of the legacy of
Martin
King.
But I'm back in the
throes of this as a result of the book tour. I'm happy to be with you. Thank you
for coming and I hope it has been useful for you. I'll try to answer any
questions that you
have.
Question: I don't know if I heard
correctly. Did you say that a police officer shot Martin King?
William
Pepper: Yes.
Q: And
where does Loyd Jowers come in?
WP: He was out there in the brush area with
him. When Betty saw him coming in she said he was white as a sheet and his knees
were all covered in mud. He had obviously been kneeling. It had rained the night
before and it was pretty muddy out there. Which is why they cleaned the area up
thoroughly the next morning.
Q: What is
it thought that he did? Did he fire too?
WP: No he didn't. He just was there to
retrieve the gun and bring it inside. That was his only role. At that point in
time. He didn't do it.
Q: Is the policeman known? Who he
is?
WP: I know
who the policeman is, yes.
Q: It's mentioned in the book isn't it?
WP: Sorry -
Q: His
name is mentioned in Orders To Kill . . . Earl -
WP: That's a very interesting story. I
thought that Earl Clark was the killer of Martin Luther King. He was a
sharp-shooter, brilliant shooter, hated King, racist guy who ran the rifle range
for the Memphis Police Department. I thought as early as 1988-89 that Clark was
the killer, the shooter. He died in, I believe it was '82, '83. I visited with
his first wife and interviewed her for a period of several hours with his son
sitting there, a young boy, I think he was about 15.
She gave him an
alibi. She said `He came home that afternoon and he was tired. He'd been on duty
around-the-clock. He went to sleep. He asked me to listen to the radio. If they
called him, wake him up, and then run and get his uniform from the cleaners and
he would take a shower and get ready to go back in.' She said that's what
happened.
She got this call
right after the assassination. She'd heard it on the radio, on the dining room
table. She went and she woke him up. He was asleep on the sofa. He went to take
his shower and she went off to get his uniform. And she gave him that
alibi. I thought, Why would she
do this? There was a lot of animosity. He divorced her. Why would she protect
him? I believed her and went away from Earl Clark for quite a period of
time.
Then when Jowers
came on the scene and he decided he would tell the whole truth in pre-trial
interviews and depositions; when he, to Andy Young and Dexter King, separately,
and then to Dexter and myself, told the whole story, he implicated Earl Clark.
And he said, `Clark was out there in the bushes.' I remember saying to him, `Are
you sure that Clark was the shooter? Clark was the one that gave you gun?' He
said, `Yeah I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.' I wondered why he would even say
it that way. And Clark was in on all the planning sessions. So I came back to
believe that that was the case and put Mrs. Clark on the stand in the trial and
she told the same story and she stuck to it. She held up well under
cross-examination.
And then I found the
young man who was the son of the owner of the cleaning establishment. He was,
and is, on the island of Guam, a school teacher. I found this guy (his name is
[Thomas] Dent) and I said to him, `Let me ask you a question: Where were you on
the 4th of April when Martin King was killed?' He said, `I was working in the
store.' `How late were you opened?' He said, `Dad shut the store at about 6:15
or 6:20, shortly after the killing. I had gone about ten to or five to six. It
took about 20 minutes to get home, something like that. Dad was home for dinner
at about 6:35, 6:40.' I said, `Did you see Mrs. Clark come in and get Earl
Clark's uniform? Did you know who Earl Clark is?' `Oh yes, of course I know who
Earl Clark is. He was a buddy of my father's. We knew him well.' I said, `Did
you see Mrs. Clark?' He said, `Well I never saw Mrs. Clark. In fact I don't
think I ever even seen her at all.' `You mean she didn't come into the shop that
afternoon?' He said, `On no,
no.'
And then I tried to
put two and two together. King was killed at 6:01. She woke him up and then she
went to the store. We drove the route and even asked her how long does it take
to get there? She said about 20-25 minutes. So she clearly could not have gotten
there when the store was open anyway. It was already shut on the basis of what
young Mr. Dent said. I questioned him further and finally he said to me, `She
definitely didn't come in to pick up his uniform and I don't even remember that
she ever did that. He used to pick up his own uniforms and drop by and have a
word with my father. And in fact, that afternoon he came into the store at about
ten past five, quarter past five. He went in the back with my father and he was
there for about fifteen or twenty minutes.' I asked, `You're sure of that?' He
said, `I'm sure of
that.'
So Clark was in the
store, talking to the father. I said `So why would he talk to your father?' He
said `They were hunting buddies. Dad used to provide him with specially packed
cartridges. I don't know if that's what they did that day but he went back
there.' So that broke her alibi entirely. She was clearly lying. He was not
there. That doesn't mean he was the shooter. But the alibi was gone, he was
somewhere
else.
So I went back to
him and came away with the conclusion, based on what Jowers had said that he
probably was the killer. Then there have been some developments since then which
lead me to believe that yes he was out in the back there with Jowers. But there
was another man there as well. And the other man was the actual killer of Martin
Luther
King.
Q: The government has so much power and
resources on their hands. How can we effectively organize now, grassroots
organizing against war or civil rights and even justice?
WP: If you
look around -- I see the building of a movement now that I haven't seen in a
long time because of the threatened assault on Iraq. I think that there is a
developing movement in terms of the anti-Iraqi war effort that is coming on. But
also over the last several years the anti-globalization campaigners have brought
a tremendous amount of force to building a coalition around the world. It's not
just (of course) an American threat anymore. There is that movement.
It's a question of
linking up, it's a question of networking and linking up and finding out who --
in this community, for example, there is a strong anti-war movement from what I
understand -- who is a part of that? It's a question of linking up, developing
the synergy and being concerned to move it not just in terms of these major
international issues which people bind together in solidarity over but local
community issues as
well.
You have to relate
the many ways of what's happening to you in the local community, in terms of
jobs, in terms of discrimination, in terms of police problems -- you have to
relate that to what's going on all over the world. The number of prisons that
are being built in a state like California. Why are prisons being increasingly
built? Who are the prisoners? Who is the prison population? What percentage of
young blacks in this country have not served some time in prison? What happens
to disruptive community leaders? What is going on in terms of that? Is that a
government
policy?
What has been the
result of the amount of drugs that have been brought into communities, urban
communities, black, hispanic communities across this country now? For many years
-- 30, 40 years -- there have been drug problems sapping, destroying the
strength of local leadership by getting people hooked on this stuff. Where does
that come from? If you look at how LSD was developed (for example) and if you
look at the whole history of the importation of cocaine from Columbia through
Mena Airport in Arkansas when Clinton was Governor of Arkansas and how that was
spread by gangs throughout the country and sold and what happened to the
profits. [8] It's a devastating situation in terms of controlling a population.
But it shouldn't shock people. This is what's going on.
The Northwoods plan
-- anybody hear the Northwoods plan? Anybody know what the Northwoods plan was?
You know, you know. That tells you something about this government that
shouldn't shock you but should make you
aware.
Northwoods was a
plan that was developed by General Lemnitzer when he was Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff. That plan called for the killing of American citizens on the
streets of a number of cities in this country under the guise of having those
killings be done by Cubans in order to justify an American invasion of Cuba.
That was Lemnitzer's plan back in 1962. When Jack Kennedy saw it he was
absolutely horrified. That they would kill Americans and use that as a means for
then invading Cuba.
[9]
When you see these
things there is nothing you should put past the capability of government to do,
either in propagandizing its people and killing its people, enslaving its
people, imprisoning its people; whatever it has to do to maintain power, it
does. We were so naïve back in the `old days' as I like to say, and we had to
learn, I'm afraid, the hard
way.
Martin King was
naïve, totally naïve. He never stayed overnight at the Lorraine Motel. He came
there for day meetings but never stayed overnight. I know this because I know
the black detectives who used to guard him and where they were. I know where he
stayed every time he was in Memphis. He never stayed at the Lorraine. But he
came to the Lorraine on the third of April because he was told This is where you
have to go to show your solidarity with the poor people and stay overnight
Martin, don't go to the Rivermont or one of those other hotels. He was supposed
to be in a court room, 202, down below where he was safe, protected. And
somehow, mysteriously he got moved to room 306. Because there was a `request'
that he be moved to room 306 so he could have a better view. He was manipulated.
He didn't have proper security. Of course he paid the ultimate
price.
But if they want to
kill anybody I suppose they can anyway. Every day I'd go into court in Memphis,
I'd get a phone call the night before or early in the morning about how I was
never going to make it through the day. If I managed to get into the Courthouse
alive, I certainly wouldn't get back to my hotel alive [laughs] -- they'd get me
going in or coming out. But that was just to unnerve me I think. They missed
their chance a long
time.
Q: The
Mafia in Memphis: where did they get their orders, was their control from
Chicago, New York, New Orleans? --
WP: New Orleans, [Carlos] Marcello. There
was a Marcello contract. Marcello was involved in a joint venture with the 902nd
Military Intelligence Group who coordinated this overall effort. Marcello would
receive stolen weapons from arsenals and camps and forts. They would be trucked
in to him. He would then put them on a flatboat, they'd go around into the Gulf
and be taken off in Houston, repackaged and sold into Latin/South America and
they'd split the profits 50-50. Glenda Grabow who came forward, ultimately was
one of our witnesses who identified Raul -- who was the first one to really do
that -- used to go down with Raul and some of these people to pick up these
weapons. So she came to know about that. This was a Marcello
contract.
Q: In terms of those four
assassinations: both Kennedys and Malcom X and Martin Luther King, you have done
work in this area that no one else has done. We know that there were two sniper
teams from Army intelligence that had King and Young in their scopes at the time
that he was shot. They didn't do the shooting but they were prepared to do the
shooting if the contracted killer didn't do the job. So we have those
identities, we have those shooters, we have a direct connection with the state
apparatus. We have this country that has a national holiday; the same country
that killed King is the country that has a national holiday. This stuff is
suppressed but the fact of the matter is you've done an incredible job. People
know there are other shooters in the Kennedy case. But they haven't been taken
to court, there hasn't been a jury trial, it hasn't been identified who the
killers were. In all of these cases you've done a breakthrough job and I want to
acknowledge and thank you for that.
WP: It's been
a long haul, a long expensive
haul.
Q: [same person] The one thing I did
want to ask, I don't know if you want to go into this. Given that we now know
that governments are capable of killing their own citizens and given the
experience of 9-11 where, just to mention two items: the stock trading on the
day before [10] and the fact that the normal intercept procedures for planes in
U.S. airspace off course for upwards of 15 minutes -- and they were off course
for an hour or more -- were not followed [11]; if you think it's possible given
these four assassinations -- Gore Vidal has argued this point [12] but no other
single, famous American intellectual is prepared to go to the point . . . of
saying the government let it [9-11] happen [unintelligible -- indicated in the
following with ". . ."] . . .
WP: I would
say you can't put anything past this government or any other government of this
sort. Because the people who are in power, officially, are really only foot
soldiers for the people who run things from the shadows. 9-11 has personally
given me a lot of difficulty. But this is not just something that is unique to
the United
States.
Lord Salisbury
planned the assassination of Queen Victoria. He had his guys go get two IRA
shooters to kill Queen Victoria, put them on the route, and as the Queen was
going down the route and the shooters were getting ready -- boom! -- out come
the Special Branch guys and they arrested them. They took them away and that was
the basis for offensive action against the
IRA.
This is what
governments do and have always done. The Brits have taught the Americans over
the years and taught them well. 9-11 is a problem that you have to look at
carefully. You have to analyze what's going on. I can tell you just one anecdote
because I haven't done any work on it. I represent the government of Pakistan on
asset search-and-recovery work. It has to do with recovering money that's been
stolen from the government by previous Prime Ministers.
That's what I do for
them but because of that I had established relationships with some people who
were there, very thoughtful people, a couple of whom are on the General Staff.
They asked me to draw up a proposal with respect to what the government's policy
should be in terms of cooperating or not with the United States. I opposed
strongly the collaboration with the United States in terms of the Afghanistan
adventure because of a whole variety of reasons I can't go into right
now.
One of the things I
learned in the course of the discussions was that the head of ISI, that's
Pakistani Intelligence, is a fellow called General Mahmoud Ahmad. General
Mahmoud had instructed Sheikh Umar who was an undercover operative for them -- a
covert liaison operative with Muslim groups: the Taliban as well as Kashmiris --
he had instructed and authorized Umar to send $100,000 to Mohammed Atta in
Florida. That's not even denied anymore. When that became public Mahmoud was
immediately removed from his position as head of ISI and put under house arrest
so no one could interview him. That
one little fact is very troubling to me because it means that somehow, the head
of Pakistani intelligence through Sheikh Umar, one of his operatives, sent
$100,000 here to the United States to a Florida bank account of one of the
hijackers, a leader of one of the hijacking operations, Mohammed Atta. Now how
did that happen? What is that all about?
[13]
There are only two
options: (1) either this was a rogue operation and ISI has a number of
fundamentalists, even in the General Staff, who were involved with them; or (2)
that it was programmed by a foreign intelligence agency that had been running
ISI in the anti-Soviet activities in Afghanistan for a long time. The Brits had
an MI6-guy (for example) in residence all the time there. I don't know the
answer to that. And when I ask friends of mine about that they don't know.
Q: He was
in Washington --
WP: Mahmoud
was in Washington at the time on September 11th. But I don't honestly have the
answer. All I can do is raise that question which is troubling. And you might
know that Umar is the fellow who's been convicted of killing Danny Pearl, the
Wall Street Journal journalist. The President of Pakistan has said quietly but
publicly he would never allow Sheikh Umar to be extradited to the United States.
That he would hang him himself first. I think that's probably because of things
that he knows.
[14]
Q: I have
a couple of comments. I haven't read your book yet so I don't know if you cover
these or not. One is about the mysterious death of the Judge who supposedly died
of the heart attack. I saw a play many years ago . . . the CIA has a poison gas
they use to assassinate people with, they spray in people's faces that simulates
a heart attack that supposedly is undetectable. The other comment, many years
ago I saw a couple of . . . quotations attributed to . . . One was that he
wasn't interested in really finding out who killed King (I'm not sure what his
reason was) and the other is he was saying something about how he thought that
somehow King was better off dead. Do you know anything about that?
WP: Andy
Young often said he thinks that the movement itself, somehow, initially anyway,
benefitted from the martyrdom of Martin King. When I met with Andy for several
hours for the first time after I learned about him being a target, and it was
actually well after it was published in Orders To Kill, he was shocked and I
think his perspective changed. Because he then became involved with us. He met
with Loyd Jowers and he has become convinced that this was an official
conspiracy. I think he has sobered up now. He's quite a different guy with
respect to the
assassination.
Q: . . .
It just always strikes me it that the work you did was a very a dangerous
enterprise . . .
WP: . . .
That was always a possibility and we had to confront those problems of various
types of setups that even went beyond killing. But I think they missed their
chance. For a long time I worked very quietly. No one paid any attention,
shrugged their shoulders, and I didn't attract much attention. Then all of a
sudden after the television trial [in Spring 1993] things started to heat up a
bit and it started to get a bit worrying. But they suppressed anything having to
do with Jowers. So I think they still thought they were safe and they could just
beat us down. When the King family
then became formally and publically involved it was too late. I don't think at
that point in time they could do anything to me. I think they missed their
chance. I've just time for one more
--
Q: Does
Hoover have any involvement with MLK's death?
WP: He knew
everything that was going on, he was aware of it. He didn't participate in the
assassination but he ran the cover-up. It was his job to take control of the
investigation which he did and he ran the cover-up. That's what he
did.
Thank you.
References:
"Beyond Vietnam,"
Address delivered to the Clergy and Laymen Concerned about Vietnam, at Riverside
Church, 4 April 1967, New York City
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/MLKapr67.html
U.S. House Select
Committee on Assassinations Report, Findings on MLK Assassination
Report of the Select
Committee on Assassinations of the U.S. House of Representatives, Washington,
DC: United States Government Printing Office, 1979
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/jfk/house_select_committee/committee_report_mlk_findings.html
COINTELPRO is an acronym for the FBI's
domestic "counterintelligence programs" to neutralize political dissidents.
Although covert operations have been employed throughout FBI history, the formal
COINTELPRO's of 1956-1971 were broadly targeted against radical political
organizations. See www.cointel.org
for more information including major portions of the Church Committee
investigative reports, chaired by Senator Frank Church in 1976.
From the Church
Committee reports see "Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Case Study," April 23, 1976,
Supplementary Detailed Staff Reports on Intelligence Activities and the Rights
of Americans, Book III, Final Report of the Select Committee to Study
Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities of the United
States Senate, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, 1976
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIb.htm
See Trial
Information at http://www.thekingcenter.com/tkc/trial.html which
includes a complete transcript of the trial. Included within are:
From VOLUME IX:
Testimony of Mr. William Schaap, attorney, military and intelligence
specialization, co-publisher Covert Action Quarterly, 11/30/99, http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/MLKv9Schaap.html
VOLUME XIV: Closing
Statements and verdict, 12/8/99 http://www.thekingcenter.com/tkc/trial.html
Excerpt of Final
Day's Proceedings, 12/8/99 http://www.thekingcenter.com/tkc/trial/trial.html
King Family Press
Conference on the MLK Assassination Trial Verdict, December 9, 1999, Atlanta,
GA. http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/MLKctPC.html
Chapter 9: The Trial
(PDF format), an earlier draft excerpt from An Act of State. This also serves as
the family's detailed analysis of the Department of Justice "limited
investigation" report. http://www.thekingcenter.com/tkc/trial/the-trial-chapter-9.html
Note that the 7,000
(at its peak) protesters who lived in Resurrection City between mid-April and 19
June 1968 comprised less than 2 percent of the 500,000 people Martin King was
committed to bringing to Washington that Spring to force the United States
government to abolish poverty. See An Act of State, page 7.
See writings of
Catherine Austin Fitts, a former managing director and member of the board of
directors of Dillon Read & Co, Inc, a former Assistant Secretary of
Housing-Federal Housing Commissioner in the first Bush Administration, and the
former President of The Hamilton Securities Group, Inc. She is the President of
Solari, Inc. (www.solari.com), an investment advisory firm. Solari provides risk
management services to investors through Sanders Research Associates (www.sandersresearch.com ) in London:
"Solari Rising," 11/15/01 http://www.ratical.org/co-globalize/solariRising.html
"Narco-Dollars for
Beginners - How the Money Works in the Illicit Drug Trade," 2001
http://www.ratical.org/co-globalize/narcoDollars.html
"The Myth of the
Rule of Law," November 2001
http://www.ratical.org/co-globalize/CAFmrl.html
"Suppressed Details
of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly Into The CIA's Highest Ranks -- CIA
Executive Director `Buzzy' Krongard Managed Firm That Handled `Put' Options On
UAL," by Michael Ruppert, From The Wilderness, 10/9/01
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/cgi-bin/MasterPFP.cgi?doc=http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html
"Profits of Death
Part I: Insider Trading And 9-11 - CIA Does Not Deny Stock Monitoring Outside
the U.S.," by Tom Flocco, From The Wilderness, 12/6/01
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/cgi-bin/MasterPFP.cgi?doc=http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/12_06_01_death_profits_pt1.html
"Profits of Death
Part II: Trading with the Enemy," by Tom Flocco, From The Wilderness, 12/11/01
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/cgi-bin/MasterPFP.cgi?doc=http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/12_11_01_death_profits_pt2.html
"Profits of Death
Part III: All Roads Lead to Deustchebank and Harken Energy, W's Own 1991 Insider
Trading Scam - The Mother of All Enrons," by Tom Flocco and Michael C. Ruppert,
From The Wilderness, 1/9/02
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/cgi-bin/MasterPFP.cgi?doc=http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/01_09_02_death_profits_pt3.html
"Mystery of terror
`insider dealers'," by Chris Blackhurst, [UK] Independent, 10/14/01
http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/story.jsp?dir=94&story=99402&host=3&printable=1
William F. Pepper is an English
barrister and an American lawyer. He practices international human rights
law. This talk is based on his book: An Act of State - The Execution of Martin Luther King, by
William F. Pepper, Verso, Jan 2003
http://www.versobooks.com/books/nopqrs/nopq-titles/pepper_w_act_state.shtml
Posted May 26,
2009
URL:
www.thecitizenfsr.org
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